tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81747565735703349522020-09-02T02:27:00.124-07:00Portable Antiquity Collecting and Heritage IssuesA blog commenting on various aspects of the private collecting and trade in archaeological artefacts today and their effect on the archaeological record.Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comBlogger11599125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-31712896897794591792020-08-27T12:01:00.007-07:002020-08-27T12:32:49.580-07:00OOOps<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Accidentally and independently put on eBay at the same time so they appear on the page next to each other:</p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/SCARCE-CIRCA-1000BCE-ANCIENT-LURISTAN-BRONZE-WAR-AXE-WITH-BEAST-TERMINALS/154052175453?hash=item23de39a65d:g:l6IAAOSwq7pfPXaT">Top one </a>eBay seller from Oxford UK (<a href="https://www.ebay.com/usr/antiquiti?_trksid=p2047675.l2559">antiquiti 11771</a>) <br /><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-LARGE-ANCIENT-LURISTAN-BRONZE-AXE-HEAD-WITH-ORNATE-TIGER-HEAD-DECORATION/372999669239?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amp;hash=item56d88345f7:g:u4cAAOSwtpBeeff3&amp;amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACYBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickk8ihYa55VeJusc0Ydu6jng14vQgYWRGaECMQB5bSa3fI7YoaCZ%252BcMa3KdmuTfZ4sbcJfYGJ6BcKNniKuhWG7c9x4Trc4BREvrJhfVvzskN2baKnpb2HG0WCmwVcyeXt7DC4z1PvP4TuYA5yO9LcYObDnQZptcfqAobAPlXMFQu%252FSXBE4CVNNZShEzGqg6AifPIIE5BRQvkW31Otq1O9ZI1jpUgg658mb7V4HV4zAzdjPLs3x%252BV6bU%252Bso%252F9qAsHKneansmrz8f1Q8yhViyySbIF2onBvB08XLCEhFqZNP3AXNAAkTJy7KtdwsqIKTDJyg9EPTQcAhlON1%252BEutDkSswr1AwBd7KH61JrwZqOkcRFaSEf%252Bd7FYjg3OlaVZGVi%252BBAXWR8H%252F%252FFpa28BPSEeAAXjbIB5tWHkxn%252FUGThEjdnk6NKFOhDWc8DR2y7qKp2%252BKz3oYFzeuSKofnzyou8tbIiLuQ3ivFMsFreLhhXRQsdeI49MYaqjcF%252BClfeqoiXpnmPuNkt9pxKV8AXBuijY50fXp3Q1uPa1NV8DCIE6TUBIzOVzJpU6tE7fwHP66jK9Va4hFV2i%252FUob1uJmtzaXxbUKatCftjpOpbCsj7QYH6tN6Qo7qPbUASS5iv%252BJXezbhS5QyeMQ1M8OME60%252BLEqNxh0Cbfus0DKby%252FGdV8XChsvmH7%252F2dps3%252BLezw%252FVX5YwPxx5dJzT6xrxJ8xXz%252Fhudy%252FlnTb5EjCudE%252BiTKTsdI7Xxue7bxsgH5dOkUIuCdu3wWc%7Ccksum%3A372999669239c6db8e0fee62430dadae9514a0f28ecb%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524">Bottom one</a>, eBay seller from Thailand (<a href="https://www.ebay.com/usr/persian.era?_trksid=p2047675.l2559">persian.era 189</a>)&nbsp;</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tkOAf5SNlMw/X0gDCcUR8MI/AAAAAAAAlhw/h9-jjMj6au8HtYzTQPvj0eqAMU9XplQeQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1384/ooops.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="908" data-original-width="1384" height="269" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tkOAf5SNlMw/X0gDCcUR8MI/AAAAAAAAlhw/h9-jjMj6au8HtYzTQPvj0eqAMU9XplQeQCLcBGAsYHQ/w410-h269/ooops.jpg" width="410" /></a></div><br /><p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ancient-luristan-bronze-waraxe-with-beast-terminal/193480313370?hash=item2d0c534a1a:g:Ov8AAOSwyKheynIO">There is a third one</a>, being sold by ancientantique92 from Aylesbury UK for $184.67&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /> <br /> </p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-35814232123466767632020-08-27T03:21:00.003-07:002020-08-27T03:21:55.377-07:00The "Looting Question" Bibliography<p>Last time I looked, this very important resource was not available, but just now have discovered that it has moved and is available in all its glory. Make use of it while it is still there... </p><blockquote><a href="http://antdocs-anthropology.webapps.buffalo.edu/lootbib.shtml">The "Looting Question" Bibliography: Web and Literary Resources on the Archaeological Politics of Private Collecting, Commercial Treasure Hunting, Looting, and "Professional" Archaeology</a>Compiled by Hugh Jarvis (PhD, MLS) University at Buffalo</blockquote>&nbsp;<p></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-65787004763103135372020-08-25T21:38:00.006-07:002020-08-25T22:30:26.346-07:00 Looters destroy 2000-year-old archaeological site in Sudan in search for gold<p><br /></p><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I_M58-K_B8U/X0XlUPnLCyI/AAAAAAAAlho/LSRktNTrVhAIpI96-W7z606rkcqpoLfzwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1920/_cfb0f4428890%2B%25281%2529.jpg" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1080" data-original-width="1920" height="147" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I_M58-K_B8U/X0XlUPnLCyI/AAAAAAAAlho/LSRktNTrVhAIpI96-W7z606rkcqpoLfzwCLcBGAsYHQ/w262-h147/_cfb0f4428890%2B%25281%2529.jpg" width="262" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">The trench and spoil heaps [Getty]</span><br /></td></tr></tbody></table>Gold seekers with giant diggers have destroyed the 2,000-year-old historical site of Jabal Maragha&nbsp;deep in the desert of Bayouda, some 270 kilometres north of the capital Khartoum (The New Arab, '<a href="https://english.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2020/8/25/gold-looters-destroy-2000-year-old-sudan-archaeological-site">Looters destroy 2000-year-old Sudan archaeological site in search for gold</a>'&nbsp; &nbsp; 25 August, 2020 ). The damage was discovered when a team of archaeologists arrived at the ancient site last month and saw that the site had vanished. They found two mechanical diggers and five men at work in a vast trench 17 metres deep, and 20 metres long. The site, dating from the Meroitic period between 350 BC and 350 AD, is on sandstone in which there are layers of pyrite, which presumably they mistook for gold. <br /><blockquote>The archaeologists were accompanied by a police escort, who took the treasure-hunters to a police station but were freed within hours. "They should have been put in jail and their machines confiscated. There are laws," said Mahmoud Al-Tayeb, a former expert from Sudan's antiquities department. Instead, the men left without charge and their diggers were released too. "It is the saddest thing," said Tayeb, who is also a professor of archaeology at the University of Warsaw. Tayeb believes that the real culprit is the workers' employer, someone who can pull strings and circumvent justice. </blockquote>Sudan's archaeologists warn that this was not a unique case, but part of a systematic looting of ancient sites. Now, in hundreds of remote places ranging from cemeteries to temples, diggers are hunting for anything to sell on the antiquities market. At Sai, a 12-kilometre-long river island in the Nile, hundreds of graves have been ransacked and destroyed by looters. Some of them date back to the times of the pharaohs. "Out of a thousand more or less well-known sites in Sudan, at least a hundred have been destroyed or damaged," said Hatem al-Nour, Sudan's director of antiquities and museums. He added that the lack of security at the sites made them easy targets for looters.Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-31589138203229894772020-08-24T13:20:00.002-07:002020-08-24T13:20:35.398-07:00PAS Dealing with Issues of Trust: A Little Birdy Told Me<p>&nbsp;</p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em; text-align: center;"><img border="0" data-original-height="84" data-original-width="92" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-umRyIRl6Crg/X0Qa0XPS3LI/AAAAAAAAlhU/hJMcG37xx1o-u785C-00epQ6yBMYSj0UwCLcBGAsYHQ/s0/birdy%2Btold%2Bme.png" /></div>Two FLOs are having a go at a commentator that questioned the number of artefacts recorded on the PAS database that might not be from the place the finder claims he found them. That seems to have touched a raw nerve and the two of them have been thrashing around trying to avoid the question of whether they do in fact demand documentation (such as a protocol assigning title from the landowner as recommended by the 2009 Nighthawking Report). I suspect that we all know the answer to that... this would mean that PAS handles antiquities with no proof that they are not stolen.&nbsp; If they can't do it, why should we expect dealers to?&nbsp;<p></p><p><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5M4yKr94obE/X0QgVtqvuLI/AAAAAAAAlhg/NmWXzYNi0pEN-Ap7MWf6Sw44xmOY0xAWACLcBGAsYHQ/s1276/trustworthiness%2Bbox.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1104" data-original-width="1276" height="354" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5M4yKr94obE/X0QgVtqvuLI/AAAAAAAAlhg/NmWXzYNi0pEN-Ap7MWf6Sw44xmOY0xAWACLcBGAsYHQ/w410-h354/trustworthiness%2Bbox.jpg" width="410" /></a></span></div><span style="font-family: inherit;">Anyway, something emerged from this.&nbsp;<span style="text-align: center;">Baz Thugwit comes to the FLO, "...<i><span style="color: #6aa84f;">'ere mate, found this anchint broach in this field, 'ere</span></i>" [stabs map with flabby finger]. FLO looks at him, "</span><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; color: #14171a; font-style: italic; white-space: pre-wrap;"><a href="https://twitter.com/FLODurhamFLO/status/1297562748356886531">We trust you to always supply honest information</a>, based on us building relationships of trust, and obviously Baz, old pal, if there was anything d</span><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; color: #14171a; white-space: pre-wrap;"><i>odgy in what you say, I'd immediately see it as clear as day. but I trust you, good fellow, come again soon, bring me more stuff". More stuff I say! Happy Hunting!</i>" And Baz turns on his heel, and off he goes, smiling to himself, </span><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="color: #6aa84f;">"<i>fooled the stuck-up arkie again</i>",</span></span><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; color: #14171a; white-space: pre-wrap;"> he thought. But no. Felix the w</span><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; color: #14171a; white-space: pre-wrap;">ily FLO has a little secret... </span><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="color: #a64d79;">"</span><i><span style="color: #a64d79;">It's a good job Baz does not know about my secret naughty-box. Now I'll just put this on the database, 42 this week!... There! and now, Baz..THIS is for lying to me!"</span><span style="color: #14171a;">.</span></i><span style="color: #14171a;"> Baz does not know there's a special box for Baz-finds: </span><span style="color: #741b47;">"</span></span><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="color: #741b47;"><i>there's <a href="https://twitter.com/FLODurhamFLO/status/1297563905485660160">a little info box we can fill in on the Db if we've any spatial doubts, </a><b><a href="https://twitter.com/FLODurhamFLO/status/1297563905485660160">and there's plenty of examples where this is used.</a> </b>And even in <b>these few cases</b>, at least there's a record of an object where previously it would be unknown, advancing archaeological knowledge</i>"</span></span><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; color: #14171a; white-space: pre-wrap;">. Make your mind up Felix old boy.. either there's "plenty of examples where this is used" or they are few. Few-plenty, plenty-few? (Oh, I feel a FOI coming on)</span><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; color: #14171a; white-space: pre-wrap;">. </span></span><p></p><p><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; color: #14171a; font-family: inherit; font-size: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap;">Now, forgive me for asking what kind of "data" are decontextualised artefacts that nobody is sure where they are from? What kind of "database" is it that has "grounded" artefacts alongside artefacts of doubtful provenance? I'd like to see the official PAS-exegesis on why an artefact of doubtful provenance (like the Piltdown skull, or Sevso hoard) "advances archaeological knowledge". </span></p><p><span style="background-color: #f5f8fa; color: #14171a; font-family: inherit; font-size: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></span></p><p></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-66631756285775006762020-08-24T03:07:00.002-07:002020-08-24T11:40:20.706-07:00FLO Struggles With Decontextualised Thingy [updated]<p><a href="https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/953641"></a></p><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eQSLQsu6xow/X0OSgYqHfjI/AAAAAAAAlhE/lW1ieRGbj2ALo8EmmYupeLYB44uN_LAmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s500/SawRoman.jpg" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="255" data-original-width="500" height="104" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eQSLQsu6xow/X0OSgYqHfjI/AAAAAAAAlhE/lW1ieRGbj2ALo8EmmYupeLYB44uN_LAmQCLcBGAsYHQ/w205-h104/SawRoman.jpg" width="205" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Photo PAS<br /></td></tr></tbody></table>B464CD <br /> Object type certainty: Possibly <br />Workflow status: Find awaiting validation<br /> A possible fragment of a Roman (Bronze Age?) copper-alloy saw, similar to BM-AF446A.SF 688.The Piercebridge Divers [sic]<br /> The fragment is slightly concave and has a square piercing at one end. The object is 38.47mm long; 18.55mm wide; 1.04mm thick and weighs 3.05g<br /> Subsequent action after recording: Returned to finder<br /> Chronology<br />Broad period: ROMAN<br />Period from: ROMAN <br />Period to: ROMAN&nbsp;<br /><p></p><blockquote>Submit your error report: <br />It is not a saw (or a "possible fragment of saw", what does that actually mean?). The object is too small and the teeth too coarse (it would jam) - it could not be used as such with no hafting, and yet there is no way to secure a haft, is there? Depending on "what" copper alloy it is, it could also be too soft and the teeth would bend. Neither does it appear from your photos to be a fragment. One possible use is as a potter's or modeller's tool, for removing excess clay, for example in forming a base ring, or applying grooved or stamped decoration. The hole would allow a cord to be attached to avoid losing it during work. But the fact that the site context of this&nbsp;<span class="scayt-misspell-word" data-scayt-word="decontextualised" data-wsc-id="ke8cjwjofuzfhmmjz" data-wsc-lang="en_GB">decontextualised</span>&nbsp;item found by a metal detectorist does not allow you to say whether it is Bronze Age or Roman is a bit of a hindrance in offering any kind of an interpretation. What would it have been found with?&nbsp; &nbsp;</blockquote><p>Now tell us please, if the find has already gone back to the finder, how is that description going to be 'validated'? And the findspot information, how was/will that be validated?&nbsp;</p><p><u>Update, </u><br />the name has come back to me, it looks like a potter's rib (<a href="https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1VSNG_enPL693PL694&amp;source=univ&amp;tbm=isch&amp;q=potters+rib&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjds6CItbTrAhUQt4sKHe1VCKIQsAR6BAgKEAE&amp;biw=1351&amp;bih=674">images</a>). Of course if it as not now in some private collection, you could perhaps look and see if the original surface is well-enough preserved to exhibit diagnostic use-wear marks.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p></p><p><br /><br /></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-87037327005437038752020-08-23T23:03:00.004-07:002020-08-23T23:03:43.550-07:00Americans Shamelessly Loot Europe's Past <p>&nbsp;</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9XSPZdSsCMM/X0NVuoNzWlI/AAAAAAAAlg8/VJIwFLXSBtMn4__UG61uLxutil2yiUBHgCLcBGAsYHQ/s878/garrett.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="878" data-original-width="844" height="107" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9XSPZdSsCMM/X0NVuoNzWlI/AAAAAAAAlg8/VJIwFLXSBtMn4__UG61uLxutil2yiUBHgCLcBGAsYHQ/w104-h107/garrett.jpg" width="104" /></a></div>Charles Garrett (2009) '<a href="https://www.garrett.com/sites/default/files/pdf/2020-02/Intro_to_Europe.pdf">Introduction To EuropeanMetal Detecting</a>', Garland Texas. Quite an eye-opener to see how a US metal detector manufacturer sees Europe as being a free-for-all:&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /> <p></p><blockquote>p. 10:'During my years of testing metal detectors, I have had the pleasure of recovering treasures in England, Scotland, France, Spain, Germany and Italy. Finding my first Roman coin is an experience I shall never forget'.</blockquote>How were the search permits organised for these trips, if - as the forums attest - locals find getting landowners' permissions so difficult? In particular specific permits are needed for Italy, Spain, some lands of Germany, and the fate of the artefacts is different in each country - how was this dealt with, an agent?&nbsp;<br /><blockquote>p.15: I found a coin cache in a plowed field in during one of my European trips. I was scanning near an old embankment [where?] when I dug the first coin. In an area of about an arm¡¯s width, I had soon unearthed another 20 ancient coins. The coins are from the 400 BC period and I figure they had once been in some sort of bag when they were buried.[...] Some of these coins from the cache are on display in the Garrett Museum in Garland, Texas'. </blockquote>Alongside the export licence I trust. Because without it, this is what we call "looting", whichever 'European country' it was found in. <br /><blockquote>pp 15-16: 'My son Vaughan accompanied me on a two-week detecting expedition through Spain, France, Italy, Germany, England and Scotland. Among other places, we visited the stone and turf fortification in northern England known as Hadrian¡¯s wall. [...] its remnants are now a popular tourist site [...] Searching along this ancient frontier border [where?]&nbsp;was certainly a highlight of my European hunting experiences.</blockquote> Apart from being tautology, it is also illegal. How were the permits arranged for Spain, France, Italy and Germany? What happened to the finds from these countries? Were the English finds recorded by the PAS and was an export licence applied for? Why is there no mention of this in the book (though there is a reference to (only)&nbsp;the English/Welsh Code of Best Practice for Responsible Metal Detecting (pp 58-62). Then he goes on to talk about targeting known sites:&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><blockquote>pp 48-9: 'where a structure is well known to have existed you can search the areas surrounding it. I spent a week one time just to search the area around an early English fort site used in the late 1700s to defend against French troops [where?]. I was by myself and I literally worked from dusk to dawn to make the most of my limited time. By the end of the week I had <b>accumulated some 500 relics</b>. [...] My preferred metal detecting method was in the All-Metal mode with my sensitivity set to detect as deep as possible. Nothing was overlooked. Fortunately, I did not have to fight heavily mineralized ground conditions in this area. <b>Because of this fort¡¯s somewhat remote location,</b> I had little tourist trash (cans, pop tops) to contend with'.</blockquote> This site was not, actually, 'protected' in some way was it that there was still so much material to be found? Where are these artefacts now stored, and how are they labelled? How did Mr Garrett determine who the landowner was? In the entire book, there is no mention of this (see p. 53 about what he considers to be a "treasure hunting opportunity") <br /> <blockquote>Again, pp. 53-4: 'The <b>caretaker</b> of an old castle in Spain we visited [where?]&nbsp;offered to let me come back sometime and do some thorough searching. Knowing how things often worked out, I decided to at least scan a few minutes before we had to leave. In the end, we did not make it back there but I did make a great recovery during that short time of searching: an ancient crossbow point. For once, I was proud of myself for seizing the moment! Never pass up a chance to scan.</blockquote>Of course, though it seems the brash Texan is oblivious to that, the 'caretaker' has no legal authority either to allow access to a property, nor allow the removal of artefacts from it. There is no cure for stupidity either: <blockquote>I made a hunting trip to an area near Koblenz, Germany. Some of our German friends were proud to show us various World War II German Army relics they had discovered with their metal detectors. We returned to one of these areas and I was thrilled with the number of items we were able to detect. In all, our detecting team recovered an estimated <b>2,000 pounds of relics</b>. We dug up countless bullets and ammunition clips as well as some helmets and even hand grenades. Such military artifacts should be treated with great caution. When in doubt about discovered ordnance, notify your local authorities versus attempting to dig it up. <b>European antiquity laws</b>[sic] <b>have become more stringent regarding exactly how such discoveries must be reported</b></blockquote> He shows a photo of an intact clip of Mauser bullets that he'd found. We trust he did not take them on the aeroplane home in that state. And, from a metal detector manufacturer (p. 63): <br /><blockquote> SPECIAL ADVICE<br /> Take advantage of new metal detector technology. There¡¯s more treasure to be found today than you could find 40 years ago. I know this to be true because the technology of today¡¯s metal detectors is superior to those I used decades ago. <b>Deeper ground penetration and better target discrimination allow European detectorists to find items they simply could not detect years ago. </b></blockquote>So more archaeological evidence than ever before is threatened by these carefree people. <br /> <br /> <p></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-72361881189764062862020-08-23T12:32:00.000-07:002020-08-23T12:32:01.333-07:00For Some, Metal Detectors are "New technology" <p>&nbsp;</p><p></p><blockquote><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(meat)#:~:text=Gammon%20is%20the%20hind%20leg,dry%2Dcured%20ham%20like%20prosciutto."><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fNTdyesrJ3Q/X0LDzhUAAHI/AAAAAAAAlgs/JepCwm6T8mwiXqmS2xblldYONJiK1OM8gCLcBGAsYHQ/s537/BBQ_Gammon_Sliced_%25284767063533%2529.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="537" data-original-width="330" height="141" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fNTdyesrJ3Q/X0LDzhUAAHI/AAAAAAAAlgs/JepCwm6T8mwiXqmS2xblldYONJiK1OM8gCLcBGAsYHQ/w86-h141/BBQ_Gammon_Sliced_%25284767063533%2529.jpg" width="86" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;">Gammon</span><br /></td></tr></tbody></table>Grow Your Own Life ? @Shrop_Allotment¡¤51 min</a><br /><span style="font-size: small;">W odpowiedzi do @PortantIssues i @Bexx_FLO</span><br />It's sad really that a man in your profession has <b>such a closed mind to new techniques</b> and is happy to tar all with the same brush. You are the archaeologist equalivant of a Gammon. </blockquote><p></p><p></p><p>Metal detectors have been around now for coming up to sixty years, so using them to find bits of metal can hardly be considered a "new technique" by anyone aware of teh world around him! As for finding gradation in collection-driven exploitation of the archaeological record (think about that a moment), maybe Mr Minton would like to tell us all how he'd see me doing that.&nbsp;</p><p>For non-native speakers:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult)</a></p><p><br /></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-47069665075522513732020-08-23T12:16:00.005-07:002020-08-23T12:16:58.161-07:00Studying Broken Bits of Metal<p>&nbsp;</p><p>One 'Flipper'&nbsp;<span color="" face="" style="background-color: white; color: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-weight: inherit; white-space: inherit;"><span color="" style="color: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; white-space: inherit;">(@flipper865: 'Metal detecting, History, Gardening, Photography, being outdoors... finding and studying broken bits of metal since 2010') from the South Wales Valleys does not seem to like the way this archaeologist discusses the trashing of the archaeological record by its collection-driven exploitation:</span></span></p><p><span color="" face="" style="background-color: white; color: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-weight: inherit; white-space: inherit;"><span color="" style="color: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; white-space: inherit;"></span></span></p><blockquote><span color="" face="" style="background-color: white; color: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-weight: inherit; white-space: inherit;"><a href="https://twitter.com/flipper865/status/1297497957781123075" style="font-size: inherit;">flipper@flipper865¡¤7 g</a>.<br /><span style="font-size: small;">W odpowiedzi do @FLODurhamFLO @PortantIssues i @Bexx_FLO</span><br />[...] he's had a run in with almost every detectorist out there. Never a kind word to say! Tars us all with the same brush&nbsp;</span></blockquote>Hmm, basically collection-driven exploitation of the archaeological record is collection-driven exploitation of the archaeological record. A blue spade is still a spade. I don't think we can paint it any other way without bending the truth. Ask an FLO. And then, the Welsh guy gets more abusive:&nbsp;<span color="" style="background-color: white; color: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; white-space: inherit;">&nbsp;</span><p><span color="" face="" style="background-color: white; color: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-weight: inherit; white-space: inherit;"><span color="" style="color: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; white-space: inherit;"></span></span></p><blockquote><span color="" face="" style="background-color: white; color: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-weight: inherit; white-space: inherit;"><a href="https://twitter.com/flipper865/status/1297602648040931329" style="font-size: inherit;">flipper@flipper865¡¤27 min</a><br /><span style="font-size: small;">W odpowiedzi do @PortantIssues @FLODurhamFLO i @Bexx_FLO</span><br />I "reckon" you need to chill the feck out and stop antagonising people that are clearly passionate about what they have studied and are sharing with the rest of the world. Positivity springs to mind, you gotta get some ffs</span></blockquote>Actually Mr Flipper, this archaeologist has studied a bit more than "bits of broken metal since 2010", and is in his own little corner of the Internet sharing with those in the world that visit it the reflections that engenders on what a minority of self-centred people with an overdose of entitlement are doing to the archaeological resource. OK? <p></p><p></p><div>And here's a thing, Flipper shows us all his idea of a systematic search of a productive site (<a href="https://twitter.com/flipper865/status/1123740011810238465/photo/1">Painting a picture with the @Minelab #ctx3030 gps over 2 years</a>):</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cxeMChmc8dA/X0K_K8Pqc1I/AAAAAAAAlgk/m1IFSM1T6zMsmkokt4mDCZ8DYGvbQLa8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1341/D5hTk8yXsAQdfn0%2B%25281%2529.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="828" data-original-width="1341" height="316" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cxeMChmc8dA/X0K_K8Pqc1I/AAAAAAAAlgk/m1IFSM1T6zMsmkokt4mDCZ8DYGvbQLa8QCLcBGAsYHQ/w512-h316/D5hTk8yXsAQdfn0%2B%25281%2529.jpg" width="512" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>So, the finds distribution in that field will look like... (a line going towards the modern gate)?</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-9409175620719724092020-08-23T11:51:00.009-07:002020-08-23T12:50:02.097-07:00Grab a Coin, Sit Down, and Tell us About it<p>&nbsp;</p><p><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tWOuDNHDn-Q/X0LFUV8HHRI/AAAAAAAAlg0/H9fh9Drnia0tfeDJTBPvve_8rzf0qf2mQCLcBGAsYHQ/s769/Theodoranot%2Bthatone.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="769" data-original-width="375" height="210" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tWOuDNHDn-Q/X0LFUV8HHRI/AAAAAAAAlg0/H9fh9Drnia0tfeDJTBPvve_8rzf0qf2mQCLcBGAsYHQ/w102-h210/Theodoranot%2Bthatone.jpg" width="102" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="https://twitter.com/garstangmuseum/status/1012251861729071105">Theodora</a></span><br /></td></tr></tbody></table>Dr Matthew Ball, Oxford academic:</p><p></p><blockquote><a href="https://twitter.com/Matt0791/status/1297584649317875712">Matthew Ball@Matt0791¡¤1 g.</a>&nbsp;<br /> W odpowiedzi do @FLODurhamFLO @PortantIssues i jeszcze 3 os¨®b<br />Its beyond his ability to be civil. Treat a mention in his vile blog as a badge of honour. The pr*ck called me ¡°coin fondler¡± ¡ª was tempted to stick it in my bio.</blockquote><p></p><p>are you addressing me, Sir?&nbsp;I do wonder just how it is that the Leverhulme DPhil '<i>Studying the dissemination of imperial messages through coin circulation in the Roman Empire</i>') considers fondling an unpleasant activity. But anyway, if instead of harbouring a grudge because <a href="http://www.sezhan72.top/2018/07/can-flo-tell-difference.html">I pointed out that a FLO's coin of Theodora was not 'that' Theodora</a>, he'd look it is not addressed to him personally, but is an engagement with the dealers (incl numismatic ones) spiel about having a "piece of the past in your hand". As for "Vile" and "pr*ck", that must be Oxford/Cummings' Brexity academic talk I guess.</p><p>And for the record:</p><p>1) The term I used on the blog was in fact "coiney".</p><p>2) At the end of that nonsense the Durham FLO snorted and said that nobody would be faking cheap bronze coins like that, which shows how little said "specialist" actually knows about what goes on in the numismatic market today. They do. And to show him that was not idle talk, a few days after that, I bought him several very nice fakes of Late Roman Bronzes that a Polish seller had at the time (they are made either in Bulgaria or the Balkans), I put them in a padded envelope and sent them to his office address with a perfectly civil and, I thought, conciliatory letter... and the lack-culture bounder did not even acknowledge receipt. That shows what kind of people the PAS are employing now.&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-20782895729190995792020-08-17T11:25:00.002-07:002020-08-18T04:20:02.420-07:00How "Hot" Should the PAS Database be? <p><br />A PAS FLO <a href="https://twitter.com/FLODurhamFLO/status/1293915790509367296">has a go at David Knell</a> for "<i>describing a colleagues work as vacuous because you disagree with the way he has chosen to engage with current debate</i>". It seems to me that <a href="http://ancient-heritage.blogspot.com/2020/08/reply-to-twitter-feedback.html">the adjective vacuous is perfectly apposite to the described case</a>, which is that <a href="https://finds.org.uk/counties/shropshire/the-sheriffhales-seal-matrix/">article about the Shropshire seal matrix</a> that the British Museum really, really wanted to link with the slave trade. <br /><br /> The problem is that the PAS database is supposed above all to be a repository of permanent record about all the artefacts that have been hoiked by metal detectorists and landed in scattered ephemeral personal collections. That is its primary function. That's a long-term process. To use it in the short term for "engaging in current debates" conflicts with that. If we look back at the early posts of this long-running blog, we can see texts about such engagement. What is very clear is that ten years on, the main reaction is "who cares?". The burning matters of 2008/9 are no longer topical subjects of discussion. The same will be the case with the hot topics of 2020.&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /><br /></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-59151467833513260202020-08-16T05:43:00.002-07:002020-08-16T08:48:05.856-07:00Some Numbers About Metal Detecting<p>&nbsp;</p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US;">A few months ago supporters of collection-driven exploitation of the archaeological record were ridiculing Sam Hardy's estimate of '27000 detectorists'. Perhaps they'd like to take a look at Facebook today. Mr Fudge's 'Metal Detecting' page, <b>26,102 members</b>. That 27000 does not look at all unlikely does it?&nbsp; And how many metal detectorists did the PAS say they'd recorded finds from in 2019? Half that, even?&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">And what about the doddery old NCMD that has resigned from the forums and wants its members to use its Facebook page? 4,313 total likes,&nbsp; 5,536 total followers. So less than one third of them goes out with third party insurance? (FID has far fewer members than that, it has 154 members). That's not very "responsible is it?</p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-65284535116863837492020-08-15T23:19:00.002-07:002020-08-15T23:19:28.953-07:00Critical Issues Concerning Using Danish Metal-Detector Finds as Archaeological Evidence<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Most accounts of the "use" of "metal detected finds" as archaeological evidence in countries with liberal heritage legislation are gushingly enthusiastic. It is refreshing to see that not everywhere have archaeologists swallowed the blue pill.&nbsp;</p><p>Torben Trier Christiansen 2016, <a href="https://www.academia.edu/39787758/RECREATIONAL_METAL_DETECTING_AND_ARCH_AEOLOGICAL_RESEARCH_Critical_Issues_Concerning_Danish_Metal_Detector_Finds">Recreational Metal Detecting and Archaeological Research: Critical Issues Concerning Danish Metal-Detector Finds</a> pp 23-36 in J. Martens, and M. Ravn (Eds.) 2016, <i><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/302895703_The_plow_zone_as_context_Ployejord_som_kontekst">Pl?yejord som Kontekst: Nye perspektiver for forskning, forvaltning og formidling</a>&nbsp;</i>Oslo<br /><br />Abstract: </p><blockquote>Thirty-five years of private metal detecting have had a profound impact on the field of archaeology in Denmark. In particular, the areas of Iron Age and Early Medieval research have benefited from the extensive new find material. Although the detector finds constitute a genuine revelation in archaeology, <b>the handling and use of Danish detector finds for research purposes is not without obstacles. This article discusses several of the critical issues that limit the research value of the detector finds</b> on the basis of find material recovered in the eastern Limfjord region, northern Jutland.</blockquote> <p></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-69534226976254768112020-08-15T22:01:00.002-07:002020-08-15T22:01:25.604-07:00Screwed Minoan Sherd from Palace of Minos on eBay<p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-23ni-M-G_38/Xzi3IPJKN5I/AAAAAAAAlgE/AIO_FHig5AAhcHKKQIfK7Tmznk2SueozgCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/s-l1600%2B%25282%2529.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1036" data-original-width="2048" height="166" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-23ni-M-G_38/Xzi3IPJKN5I/AAAAAAAAlgE/AIO_FHig5AAhcHKKQIfK7Tmznk2SueozgCLcBGAsYHQ/w328-h166/s-l1600%2B%25282%2529.jpg" width="328" /></a></div>&nbsp;<p></p><p>EBay seller lantz_industries (81) from Reno, Nevada, United States has a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/Minoan-Archeological-Shard-from-Palace-of-Minos/323805354740?hash=item4b644d9af4:g:1AYAAOSwDPlc2MRJ">Minoan Archeological Shard from Palace of Minos</a> for sale, yours for US $9,850.00. That is all the description says. On the back of the naff homemade wooden plaque to which it is screwed is a label: "found under mud on actual site of palace in spring, 1954". The 'traditional' date for Thera explosion of c 1500 is referred to here. Somehow the mention of the export licence disappeared from the sales offer... The sherd is nice, should not have left the palace site, but the price - apparently for smuggling it off the island and handling stolen goods, hmm.&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-56874313447527432942020-08-15T01:36:00.005-07:002020-08-17T10:30:54.864-07:00Reader's Contribution<p>&nbsp;</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AAmguYUhdhE/XzeeU-NAGpI/AAAAAAAAlf8/8RBp4wnSdw4C_aoaqSmwhp0ElL4e9EoPACLcBGAsYHQ/s650/Descent%2Bof%2Bscience.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="274" data-original-width="650" height="173" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AAmguYUhdhE/XzeeU-NAGpI/AAAAAAAAlf8/8RBp4wnSdw4C_aoaqSmwhp0ElL4e9EoPACLcBGAsYHQ/w410-h173/Descent%2Bof%2Bscience.jpg" width="410" /></a></div><p><br /></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-59099610243845795832020-08-14T10:32:00.004-07:002020-08-14T10:32:57.246-07:00British Dumbdown of Egyptian Archaeological Heritage<p>&nbsp;</p><p>More colonialism from Britain, <a href="https://my.visme.co/view/g7zp8my0-mumford-the-mummy#s1">an interactive resource</a> to 'learn' about ancient Egypt (creator: Joyce Tyldesley: "Professor, author and archaeologist, teaching Egyptology on-line to students worldwide from the University of Manchester"). Some really inane questions here, they seem less designed to actually teach anything by setting any kind of a challenge, but to give the dullest dullard English kid the chance to "succeed" by answering them all. </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jcMrFoTdtBI/XzbKm3yAQvI/AAAAAAAAlf0/IE7eLvVmI28vOsPV3f5wrS5F0WMfD263gCLcBGAsYHQ/s836/mumfordMummy.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="820" data-original-width="836" height="402" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jcMrFoTdtBI/XzbKm3yAQvI/AAAAAAAAlf0/IE7eLvVmI28vOsPV3f5wrS5F0WMfD263gCLcBGAsYHQ/w410-h402/mumfordMummy.jpg" width="410" /></a></div><p>I doubt whether we'd see the Egyptians for some reason doing the same ridiculous thing with the British archaeological heritage.&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-73008490789244832092020-08-14T03:29:00.004-07:002020-08-14T03:29:43.013-07:00Different Views of the Same Thing<p>&nbsp;</p><p>There are several different versions of this on the internet, all on the same lines, this one is from (by?) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulTubb1/status/1294204993290080256">Paul Tubb</a>:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JIq2g4tubM0/XzZmvg33mGI/AAAAAAAAlfo/LWhcfbn3oSMqJhdW2Vn_TZBFwU_u5NU_ACLcBGAsYHQ/s606/EfXwlP9XYAUefmr.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="606" data-original-width="600" height="310" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JIq2g4tubM0/XzZmvg33mGI/AAAAAAAAlfo/LWhcfbn3oSMqJhdW2Vn_TZBFwU_u5NU_ACLcBGAsYHQ/w307-h310/EfXwlP9XYAUefmr.jpg" width="307" /></a></div><p>Now, readers, where would I put the PAS and its supporters and their attempts to use loose decontextualised objects as 'data'? Where would I put the critics of the PAS? And where would YOU put them (and where would they)?&nbsp;<br /><br />Clue, the FLO's recent blog post on '<a href="http://www.sezhan72.top/2020/08/david-knell-on-pas-story-telling.html">PAS and the slave trade</a>' and their attempts to explain away the criticism is in pink.&nbsp;</p><p style="text-align: right;"><a href="https://twitter.com/PaulTubb1/status/1294204993290080256">Source</a></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-76962082863743356912020-08-13T15:08:00.000-07:002020-08-13T22:51:31.049-07:00Penn Cultural Heritage Centre to Help Investigate US-bound Antiquities Trafficking<br /><br /><a href="https://www.state.gov/the-u-s-department-of-state-and-university-of-pennsylvania-strengthen-cultural-protection-with-memorandum-of-understanding/"></a><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.state.gov/the-u-s-department-of-state-and-university-of-pennsylvania-strengthen-cultural-protection-with-memorandum-of-understanding/"></a><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QHJqxvwqUF8/XzYloPN6RuI/AAAAAAAAlfc/zEKf4Xz9qvQNbyGAVntEep_BUbzQF5DYACLcBGAsYHQ/s217/Penn.png" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="138" data-original-width="217" height="70" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QHJqxvwqUF8/XzYloPN6RuI/AAAAAAAAlfc/zEKf4Xz9qvQNbyGAVntEep_BUbzQF5DYACLcBGAsYHQ/w111-h70/Penn.png" width="111" /></a></div>Press release: <blockquote>Today, Assistant Secretary of State for Educational and Cultural Affairs Marie Royce and Williams Director of the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology Dr. Julian Siggers signed a Memorandum of Understanding to establish a new public-private partnership. Under this partnership, the Department of State and the Penn Cultural Heritage Center will cooperate to combat international cultural property trafficking. The United States is unwavering in its commitment to protect and preserve cultural heritage around the world and to <b>combat the trafficking in cultural property that funds criminal and terrorist networks</b>. This new partnership will facilitate consultations between U.S. law enforcement officials from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Homeland Security Investigations, and U.S. Customs and Border Protection and experts in archaeology and art history when expertise is needed during the course of investigations. Experts from the faculty and staff of the University of Pennsylvania and other relevant universities, museums, libraries, archives, and nonprofit organizations will also participate.</blockquote>Note the maintenance of the "trafficking in cultural property that funds criminal and terrorist networks" story and its presentation as a hard fact. One wonders however why a formal agreement is necessary, and whether it means that from now on, expertise in art history and archaeology will (have to) be exclusively drawn from the University of Pennsylvania?<div><br /></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /></div>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-74207854649623436702020-08-13T11:26:00.003-07:002020-08-17T10:43:17.606-07:00David Knell on PAS Story-telling [UPDATED]<p>The discussion of the politicised story-telling of the PAS on a ring from Shropshire goes on. FLO Peter Reavill published a moral tale about a seal matrix with a man's head on it and said it related to slave-owning, PACHI criticised it, David Knell added his comments to my post. That prompted another FLO to come rushing over to attack my adjectives, those of David Knell and generally claim in effect that the FLOs are experts and have British Museum expert advice, and how dare anyone question their interpretation. Wow. I updated my original post, but David Knell has continued the discussion in a way that raises the question of the reliability of the PAS recording (David Knell, '<a href="http://ancient-heritage.blogspot.com/2020/08/pas-truth-be-damned-lets-just-be-topical.html">PAS: Truth be damned, let's just be topical!</a>' Thursday, 13 August 2020) </p><blockquote>Apparently in a misguided attempt to be topical, the author gave his article the subtitle "How a single artefact can shed light on the transatlantic slave trade" and tagged it as 'Atlantic Slave Trade, Black Lives Matter, Enslaved Person'. Excited by that theme, the author then went on to make wild assumptions in the text - "... design depicting a Black man ¨C most probably an enslaved person", "the depiction of an enslaved person on this seal" - while desperately trying to link the seal to "the enslavement of African people". [...] I now see Ben Westwood, another FLO, is apparently outraged that anyone dared to challenge the nonsense in the PAS article. </blockquote>There are some (justifiable) sharp comments in this response ("<i>Perhaps my standard for drawing a line between fact and wild flights of uninformed imagination is somewhat stricter than that of the PAS</i>". "<i>a PAS article that favours sensationalist speculation over sound scholarly objectivity</i>"). Basically it boils down to Knell asserting (and I think correctly) "<i>that any chance of an intelligent "debate" requires the immediate ditching of that "Slave Trade" narrative; it's a false accretion founded on an ignorance of armorial art [...] forcefully foisting topicality onto the artefact</i>". In my original post I suggested that the bust on this seal might have been a classical reference, and while it's still possible, having read Knell's comment to that post and now his enlargement on his blog, I am persuaded that his is the more likely interpretation.&nbsp;<div><br /><div><div>In a previous generation of archaeologists, there was a much wider knowledge of heraldry than seems to be the case today. So in his <a href="http://ancient-heritage.blogspot.com/2020/08/pas-truth-be-damned-lets-just-be-topical.html">blog post</a>, Knell gives a brief account of armorial art - pointing slyly to some examples on the PAS database, including one seal matrix (<a href="https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/984806">NLM-0D2C6D</a>) remarkably like the Shropshire one, though better finished. That one is&nbsp;dated by another FLO to&nbsp;<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333;">&nbsp;<b>1750-1825</b>&nbsp;</span>(not "1713") - the significance of that is that slavery was abolished in the UK in 1807. Knell goes on to explain to the FLO ("expert") the significance of the "Moor's Head" emblem, elements the FLO evidently had not considered, and all those experts he consulted (names, please) did not remind him of:&nbsp;<div><blockquote>Although the device is by no means as common as a lion rampant, it is not exactly rare either [...] and it's rather surprising that it threw the PAS team into a shocked wobbly [...] despite Mr Reavill's strenuous effort to make it topical, the device is most unlikely to have even the remotest connection with the "transatlantic slave trade". [...] Despite the misleading subtitle of the Reavill article, the artefact has not shed an iota of light on the transatlantic slave trade (hardly surprising since the artefact has nothing to do with it); the article merely illustrates the validity of Paul Barford's warning about narrativisation. It is a reckless reversal of archaeological practice: instead of dispassionately allowing an artefact to speak for itself and learning from it, a largely irrelevant sermon based on misinformed guesswork and irrational assumption has been clumsily piggybacked onto it. There is already more than enough pseudo-archaeology in the world, please don't add to it.</blockquote><p><b><u>Update 17th August 2020</u></b></p><p>The sorry saga goes on and on and the PAS FLOs (particularly the Durham one) are digging themselves deeper and deeper into a hole (David Knell, '<a href="http://ancient-heritage.blogspot.com/2020/08/reply-to-twitter-feedback.html">Reply to Twitter feedback</a>' <i>Ancient Heritage blog</i>, Monday, 17 August 2020).&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p></div></div><div><div><div><p></p></div></div></div></div></div>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-80430292928896699582020-08-13T07:48:00.003-07:002020-08-13T10:08:08.059-07:00 'Context matters: Collating the past¡¯ <br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p0vC80oTfKE/XzVSpEdEMUI/AAAAAAAAlfE/19k_IHH7FvgZY09tAtTIgcCg9Xk3FBungCLcBGAsYHQ/s400/CM_cover.png" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="400" data-original-width="270" height="164" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p0vC80oTfKE/XzVSpEdEMUI/AAAAAAAAlfE/19k_IHH7FvgZY09tAtTIgcCg9Xk3FBungCLcBGAsYHQ/w110-h164/CM_cover.png" width="110" /></a></div><div>Declaration of interest, a couple of days ago, I received from the author a complimentary copy of a volume I know he'd been working on for some time and came out recently. I thought I'd write a few words about it here.&nbsp;</div><div>The book is David W.J. Gill, 2020 '<i><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Context-Matters-Collating-David-Gill/dp/1734302615">Context matters: Collating the past</a></i>¡¯ ARCA Publications (place of publication: probably Columbia SC, USA) 291 pp index&nbsp;<span face="" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: &quot;palatino linotype&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;">ISBN-13: 978-1734302615.</span></div><div><br /></div><div>This handsome volume is a collation of some 30 essays, reviews and articles by Professor David Gill that had been published in ARCA's&nbsp;<i>Journal of Art Crime</i>&nbsp;(JAC) in the past decade, but here set out in thematic blocks with a linking commentary.&nbsp;</div><div><div><br /></div><div>These essays (in a JAC feature called 'context matters') revolve around museum objects and ancient art, mainly from the classical world with a strong focus on issues concerning the relationships between museums (US ones in particular) and source countries. The author points out that the texts that were published in JAC did not cover in much detail the broader aspects of ¡®repatriation¡¯ of objects and indeed whole architectural elements taken to foreign museums as Grand Tour trophies in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, nor of the degree to which products of modern fakery ¡®can be inserted into and corrupt the corpus of knowledge¡¯ (p. 13).&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>I have long followed David¡¯s work, and have probably read a fair number of these texts before in one form or another over the last decade or so, and of course consider that each of them is an important contribution to the field. His readers will know that David¡¯s approach is an unassuming one of quiet, logical objectivity, and in his texts many of the touchier issues tend to be formulated as questions, inviting the reader to use the information presented to form their own opinions and ask their own questions. This perhaps can seduce the reader into not seeing their immediate impact. Having these texts collated (see title) in a single volume grouped thematically gives them a new resonance. The intertextualities and pattern of the author¡¯s thought become more visible. Indeed one might say that there could be no better illustration of the concept ?context matters¡± than what these individually meaningful texts say when they are all presented in the context of each other.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>The introduction, pp 9-16, sets out the story of how the author became involved in research on these topics, going back a quarter of a century, but also relating the essays here to wider issues. There are eight sections: I, International agreements; II, The AAMD and its members; III, Returning antiquities; IV, Compliance and due diligence (introducing the concept ¡°collecting histories¡±); V, Curators; VI, Looting and the market; VII, Perspectives from England; VIII, Debating cultural property (reviews of books by Cuno, Waxman and Jenkins). Some of the sections and essays have separate bibliographies, with the main one at the end of the volume, but it makes sense once you see how the volume is put together.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Much of the emphasis in the first part of the volume is on the trade in objects from Italy and Greece and the USA as a voracious consumer, and the Sotheby¡¯s and Medici scandal (with its cache of polaroids) as the link between the two. Along the way we are treated to cameos on the Ny Carlesberg Glyptotek, and my two favourite as-yet unresolved cases of the Ka Nefer Nefer mummy fragment and the Leutwitz (¡°Cleveland¡±) Apollo, both of which the art market somehow believes to have <b>physically existed in two different places at the same time </b>(like the herm in Chapter 17). This is often a problem when the antiquities trade attempts to produce documents for collecting histories, they so often give the impression of (ahem) having been simply made up.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Section V introduces the issue of the role and importance of academics in the antiquities trade, a topic raised by Renfrew two decades ago, but a lesson we are still learning (in particular now in the fields of cunies and papyri ¨C the ¡®<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Veritas-Harvard-Professor-Gospel-Jesuss/dp/0385542585">Gospel of Jesus¡¯ Wife</a>¡¯ is a case in point). But it seems that we are slow learners, this is still an area that needs much more discussion and, especially, a much closer formulation of codes of practice /ethics for archaeologists (and not only). <br /><br /></div><div>Section VI introduces the issues of conflict antiquities. The first essay goes into looting in the Balkans, the role of Bulgaria (and its mafia) in the supply of the antiquities market in the early 1990s, the second touches on the acquisition of objects from war-torn Syria and Iraq, the third on looting of museums and storerooms in Libya and Egypt as well as Italy and Greece.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>There are not many other authors from whom in the context of portable antiquities I¡¯d be glad to see a section labelled ¡®perspectives from England¡¯ (normally, on seeing such a title in English, as we say in Poland ¡°<i>the knife already opens in my pocket</i>¡±). This is because most British colleagues would just parrot some vacant stuff about the ¡®benefits¡¯ of collaboration and partnership and ¡®public engagement with the past¡¯, without putting that in any context. Gill is far more astute and takes two cases of recent discoveries where the Portable Antiquities Scheme was involved in notable finds, the so-called Crosby Garrett Helmet and the Lenborough Hoard, both of them tragic fiascos in archaeological terms. Few other archaeologists have had the gumption to have called-out these two finds in this way. My main regret is that David¡¯s pieces on the PAS (2010a and 2010b) were not in JAC but elsewhere so they do not appear here.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>The final section rehearses some of David¡¯s responses to the very curious reasoning of other supporters of portable antiquities collecting (though in the museum context).&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>I like very much the way some of the information is presented in the form of tabulation. What is revealing is that in most cases these are not tabulations of known collecting histories, but rather the steps by which we reconstruct what really happened (or what we do not know). We need to come up with a term for this process (because we can't call it "provenance research" really).*&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>What I find missing is a comprehensive presentation here of David's thoughts on one puzzling aspect. Since even before we read this book, we'd most of us say yes, "context matters" (and "<a href="https://lootingmatters.blogspot.com/">looting matters</a>"). So why, actually are there all these illustrious people and institutions described here behaving as though it's utterly unimportant, that what is important is some trophy "artwork" to display and brag about. Yet as Elizabeth Marlowe (2013) shows (and should have been well-known before that publication too), context and 'grounding' are by no means a problem relating to legitimacy of ownership, but the very interpretation of the object (even one that is treated as 'art'). It affects the interpretation in research, the manner of representation in display and museum practice - so why was it so gaily ignored in all the cases Gill discusses?&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>This book deserves to be on the reading lists of students in a number of fields (archaeology, cultural heritage studies, museology, and criminology come to mind). It provides a useful summary of a series of matters that are difficult to follow from the scattered sources (just look at the size of his bibliography) and is useful in that it focuses attention on a specific set of material that highlight the core issues and can provide the foundations for further discussions.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>&nbsp;As a booklover, I cannot fail to mention the book¡¯s appealing design (by Ur?ka Charney). This volume entrances, from the subtle restraint of the very tactile cover and the page setup that unites the separate sections, gives them a robust but open character that makes the volume a delightful object in its own right.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div><u>References</u></div><div><br /></div><div>David Gill 2010a <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286702646_The_Portable_Antiquities_Scheme_and_the_Treasure_Act_Protecting_the_Archaeology_of_England_and_Wales">The Portable Antiquities Scheme and the Treasure Act: Protecting the Archaeology of England and Wales?</a>Papers from the Institute of Archaeology (PIA) vol 20, 1-11&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>David Gill 2010b '<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279333269_The_Portable_Antiquities_Scheme_and_the_Treasure_Act_Protecting_the_Archaeology_of_England_and_Wales_Reply_to_Austin_Barford_Moshenska_Renfrew_and_Worrell">The Portable Antiquities Scheme and the Treasure Act: Protecting the Archaeology of England and Wales? Reply to Austin, Barford, Moshenska, Renfrew and Worrell</a>', Papers from the Institute of Archaeology (PIA) vol 20, 33-40 </div><div><br /></div><div><span style="background-color: #fafafa; font-family: inherit;">Elizabeth Marlowe 2013,&nbsp;</span><em style="background-color: #fafafa; box-sizing: inherit; font-family: inherit;">Shaky Ground: Context, Connoisseurship and the History of Roman Art. Debates in archaeology.</em><span style="background-color: #fafafa; font-family: inherit;">&nbsp;London; New York: Bloomsbury Academic</span></div><div><br /></div><div>Colin Renfrew, 2000. Loot, legitimacy and ownership: The ethical crisis in archaeology.London. London: Duckworth.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>* <span style="font-family: courier;">[Having said that, in my opinion, the collecting history of the Leutwitz Apollo as presented by Professor Gill p.44 is missing&nbsp;<a href="http://www.sezhan72.top/2013/10/leutwitz-apollo-9-dr-marinescu-spills.html">one important sighting</a>, which in fact changes everything, but I may have written about this after his original article went to press].&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="font-family: courier;"><br /></span></div><div><br /></div></div>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-27562788689872825282020-08-13T02:22:00.005-07:002020-08-13T02:25:38.941-07:00UK' National Council for Metal Detecting Abandons Forum Members<br /><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-taXQZjUvZFY/XzUGPSN04bI/AAAAAAAAle8/0UQKWKd3QlgAH1k6UDEKQffY4XdHBRIMgCLcBGAsYHQ/s639/ncmdm.png" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="161" data-original-width="639" height="66" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-taXQZjUvZFY/XzUGPSN04bI/AAAAAAAAle8/0UQKWKd3QlgAH1k6UDEKQffY4XdHBRIMgCLcBGAsYHQ/w262-h66/ncmdm.png" width="262" /></a><br /></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Metal detectorists, always running away<br /></td></tr></tbody></table><div><br /></div>On a popular metal detecting forum near you, the NCMD has once again demonstrated its total incompetence and unpreparedness (<a href="https://www.metaldetectingforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=1094952#p1094952">post by mrix ? Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:45 pm</a>):<div><blockquote><div style="text-align: center;"><u>N.C.M.D Notice&nbsp;</u></div>The NCMD have decided that they no longer wish to have a dedicated forum on MDF. This is primarily because they currently do not have sufficient staff available to respond directly to the questions from the MDF membership. The MDF has always tried to make it clear that responses to our membership are the views of NCMD and not necessarily those of the MDF. This has, sometimes in the past, caused problems for the MDF <b>and therefore this move by the NCMD is welcomed. <br /></b>Hopefully, when the NCMD have sufficient staffing this situation may change, but in the meantime we would suggest that our members contact the NCMD directly with any queries. Our members are, of course, welcome to discuss any issues regarding their NCMD membership in the 'General Chat' forum, as was previously the case. <br />Regards MDF Team</blockquote><p>Does this mean that an organisation set up to communicate between the hobbyists and the rest of us and act as spokesmen no longer has any kind of a communications team? That's pretty pathetic.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p></div>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-53972959284408185102020-08-13T01:08:00.002-07:002020-08-13T01:08:46.453-07:00Museums Reassessed Due to Lockdown? <p>Martha Gill '<a href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/museums-grip-on-stolen-goods-is-loosening-f89gmfs50">Museums¡¯ grip on stolen goods is loosening</a>' (Times August 12 2020) points out that the success of virtual tours shows that institutions are running out of excuses over the restitution of colonial artefacts <br /><blockquote>It¡¯s perhaps one of the stranger successes of lockdown. Museums are opening up virtual galleries online and visitors are turning up to nip around them. Strange because ¡°virtual museum¡± would be one way to describe what the internet does already. It certainly seems to defeat the purpose of painstakingly gathering objects together in the same building. Still, it has worked so well that someone has taken the concept to its logical conclusion. Voma, the world¡¯s first ¡°fully interactive virtual museum¡± opens on Friday. It will cherry-pick the best exhibits from the Mus¨¦e d¡¯Orsay in Paris, Moma in New York and the Art Institute of Chicago. All without the bore of having to dust them.</blockquote> <br />So basically all that encyclopedic museum guff that the BM and Cuno and others were once banging on about is being sidestepped.&nbsp; Then of course is the other issue, museums really are not all that educational any more. That's not the way they are treated by the majority of its audience, and its not the way it is treated by those that run them and try to provide an attractive service for the publ;ic. So, as Ms Gill points out, despite their protestations, no priceless knowledge will be lost if they send all that colonial stuff back. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-82967847785354929192020-08-13T01:00:00.002-07:002020-08-13T10:25:55.789-07:00Heritage Action: 'German eBay protects Germany but Damages Britain'<p>&nbsp;</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6Lg7WIQSSf8/XzV3fYiF3aI/AAAAAAAAlfU/OOZ8X2OXxxo95PrUbxf539O7kUtbW1wJACLcBGAsYHQ/s500/fxxj3ttftm5ltcqnto1o4baovyl.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="400" data-original-width="500" height="84" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6Lg7WIQSSf8/XzV3fYiF3aI/AAAAAAAAlfU/OOZ8X2OXxxo95PrUbxf539O7kUtbW1wJACLcBGAsYHQ/w105-h84/fxxj3ttftm5ltcqnto1o4baovyl.png" width="105" /></a></div>Heritage Action: '<a href="https://heritageaction.wordpress.com/2020/08/08/german-ebay-protects-germany-but-damages-britain/">German eBay protects Germany but damages Britain!</a> (HJ 08/08/2020). Twelve years ago, HA wrote about German eBay's new regulations on the sale of archaeological artefacts that stipulate that anything sold must be accompanied by proper documentation showing the seller¡¯s title and proof that it has been properly reported:<div><blockquote>As a result, there are now zero Metalldetektionsfunde (metal detecting finds) directly offered on German eBay. Providing ¡°proper documentation¡± has turned out to be too difficult, it seems. However, you CAN buy thousands of finds via eBay. They are the ones designated as from international sellers, people who aren¡¯t obliged to provide proper documentation. They¡¯re nearly all based in Gro?britannien! . . [2291 Articles found by international eBay sellers] . Makes you proud to be British, does it? Maybe those considering post-PAS options should take note. </blockquote></div>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0D?browiecka 8D, 03-932 Warszawa, Poland52.231902899999987 21.051159352.229274443260564 21.04686776557617 52.23453135673941 21.055450834423826tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-80598069682385865112020-08-12T13:45:00.002-07:002020-08-13T07:53:23.931-07:00UK Dealer Shows Disrespect for the Dead<p>&nbsp;</p><p>While on the topic of colonialism and dehumanisation in the no-questions-asked international antiquities market, take a look at how a UK dealer not only disrespects the cultural patrimony of a modern nation in the Middle East, but callously disrespects the dead, a death-themed "<a href="https://twitter.com/AncientRelics/status/1205902013361524738">Christmas card to all my customers</a>":</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MwvOA45IEWc/XzRQ9w2S24I/AAAAAAAAleE/VSW7UcLqevUotQFdtZOqpoJGxXweUkaowCLcBGAsYHQ/s962/facesfrom%2Bthe%2Bpast.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="802" data-original-width="962" height="342" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MwvOA45IEWc/XzRQ9w2S24I/AAAAAAAAleE/VSW7UcLqevUotQFdtZOqpoJGxXweUkaowCLcBGAsYHQ/w410-h342/facesfrom%2Bthe%2Bpast.jpg" width="410" /></a></div><p>I do not think most of us are really having a very good 2020. I really have issues here with this. Those "mummy masks" are not artefacts in their own rights. They are just part (about 15/20%) of just the front of a more complex timber artefact, somebody's coffin, from which they've been callously levered off to sell (while the rest ends up dumped, together with the disturbed human remains). But these are not just any old coffins, mummy cases have a specific form for a reason, and just as the "mummy mask" (sic) has been "portableised" from the coffin itself, wrecking it, so the coffin was an integral part of the whole human burial. To those that respectfully buried the dead, the coffin and mummy within meant that the corpse was transformed into the 'justified Osiris' that is mentioned on the inscriptions that accompanied it. These ensured that the deceased will have eternal life. But no, Rothwell is flogging off the shattered remnants of the Osiris so he can roleplay being an "Oldschool adventurer and lover of history", but it's also about control, controlling the past and controlling the message that these remnants carry. So what does he do? Puts them on a message celebrating the birth of another figure (one associated with his own culture, not those of the deceased) that also claims to offer eternal life to his followers. That is just downright disrespectful, first to the memory of the four unfortunates that ended up losing their afterlife to Mr Rothwells's profit margins and his greedy customer's acquisitiveness, but also to the beliefs of Christians that Rothwell has just cheapened by this stunt.</p><p><br /></p>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-67936628598464871062020-08-12T12:56:00.000-07:002020-08-12T23:57:17.264-07:00Maybe Time for British Archaeologists to Start telling it Like it IS.UK metal detectorist: "<a href=" https://detectingandcollecting.wordpress.com/2020/08/07/you-cant-catch-rabbits-with-a-dead-ferret/#more-2016">everyone knows artefact hunting is a wholesome, valuable, legitimate, and educational leisure pursuit</a>". IS it? DO they? And whose fault is that @findsorguk ; @archaeologyuk ; @rescue_news ; @InstituteArch ? <div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2ZuD1HJZi_g/XzTiaRomvoI/AAAAAAAAleM/Xmn6GMqvXSwONA2RMWAiFd8fxW9y0XKKACLcBGAsYHQ/s900/EfR5bu4WkAAKxMg.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="414" data-original-width="900" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2ZuD1HJZi_g/XzTiaRomvoI/AAAAAAAAleM/Xmn6GMqvXSwONA2RMWAiFd8fxW9y0XKKACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/EfR5bu4WkAAKxMg.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-17952068597694343182020-08-11T13:02:00.008-07:002020-08-13T07:52:06.453-07:00UK "Antiquities" Dealer Seems not to Like my Work [Updated]<p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vbbuLohTjkQ/XzL5LDCd9aI/AAAAAAAAld8/bM9qLne8V8c-44myJ184CxlGWi0-Xx26gCLcBGAsYHQ/s488/Arrs.png" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="232" data-original-width="488" height="49" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vbbuLohTjkQ/XzL5LDCd9aI/AAAAAAAAld8/bM9qLne8V8c-44myJ184CxlGWi0-Xx26gCLcBGAsYHQ/w102-h49/Arrs.png" width="102" /></a></div><div>A dealer whose anonymous&nbsp;<a href="http://www.antiquitiesonline.co.uk/Home.htm">website</a> and social media 'contributions' [on antiquities and how wonderful the antiquities trade actually is and how super collectors are]&nbsp; claims to have read a text of mine on the trade in North African lithics within hours of it going online. That's keenness for you. Here is their <a href="https://twitter.com/AncientRelics/status/1293198258572066817">anonymous verdict</a>:</div><div>&nbsp; <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ojS1SMRk8k8/XzLwOiOYTbI/AAAAAAAAld0/ab2ZcU6IAV8KZvuHgHdQQlk7nJEQOkE_ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1006/nonsense.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="524" data-original-width="1006" height="213" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ojS1SMRk8k8/XzLwOiOYTbI/AAAAAAAAld0/ab2ZcU6IAV8KZvuHgHdQQlk7nJEQOkE_ACLcBGAsYHQ/w410-h213/nonsense.png" width="410" /></a></div> &nbsp;Oh well, you can't please them all. There is no real explanation of why it is "nonsense" to analyse open source data in this way, and I really do not understand the comment "<i>at eBay prices, trade in genuine ancient North African lithics is unviable. Consider the economics!</i>". Is the seller claiming that all the pieces are fake? I discuss this question. I discuss the eBay prices, the economics and scale of the trade, and I attempt to follow how many are sold in what time span. Certainly the material is selling "at eBay prices", so I really don't know what the comment was supposed to mean. Neither is it clear how "obscure" a journal is that not only exists in paper form and present in many European academic libraries (that's what it's published for), but can be accessed free of charge anywhere where there is internet access. <br /><br />Antiquities Online is a trading arm of Ancient Relics ("Old World Antiquities, Precolumbian Art and Historical Collectables"). And if you want to see what kind of a posh gallery space they display their artefacts in, google their address: Suite 25, 151 High Street, Southampton, Hampshire SO14 2BT, United Kingdom. What a dump. PACHI believes this grumpy old dealer wannabe is <a href="http://www.sezhan72.top/2009/05/living-comfortably-off-tax-dollars.html">Guy Rothwell</a> ("<i>Old school adventurer and lover of history and all the wonderful weird eccentricities of life. <a href="https://www.oldcaterhamians.com/">Old Caterhamian</a>, Bachelor of Science, Doctor of Philosophy, owner of Antiquities Online Ancient Art Gallery</i>"), but it's&nbsp; not clear from the website itself who is behind it (so much for "reputable dealers" when you cant even work out who that dealer is). The use of social media is rather typical of antiquities dealers, they all do much the same, a great deal of repetition, mostly reposting other people's stuff, attacking critics of the market, very little original content. It looks like their social media account is just there so the account owner can say they are there... There is also however a rather inactive blog (8 posts all from last year):&nbsp;"<a href="https://collectingantiquities.blogspot.com/">Collecting antiquities - a long and honourable tradition</a>", the usual stuff too. </div><div><br /></div><div>Anyway, don't take a dealer's word for it (don't take an antiquities dealer's word for <b>anything</b>!) <a href="http://www.sezhan72.top/2020/08/green-saharas-grey-markets-commercial.html">read my text on the trade in North African lithics and see for yourselves</a>, comments always welcome, substantive ones even more so.&nbsp;</div><div></div><div><br /></div><div><u><b>Update 12 Aug 2020</b></u> <br /> The meaning behind "<i>at eBay prices, trade in genuine ancient North African lithics is unviable. Consider the economics</i>" was revealed in a later tweet. <blockquote><a href="https://twitter.com/AncientRelics/status/1293611352376913922">Antiquities Online@AncientRelics ¡¤ 10 g.</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;W odpowiedzi do @PortantIssues<br />You note majority of NA 'Neolithic' arrowheads sell at $1-3 each! Consider dealer needs profit, middlemen need profit, finders need recompense and collecting expeditions and international transport needs finance. At eBay prices, trade in GENIUNE ancient NA arrowheads not viable.</blockquote>Yet, it actually goes on, despite Mr Rothwell's disbelief. So really, since we know it goes on, the question is how? It's not true that, as this dealer apparently wants to tell his clients, only high-priced antiquities are real. He seems to ignore that this really depends on how they are obtained, from whom, how exploitatively, and in what quantities. Also of course one of the appeals of collecting artefacts like these is the affordability. Also, if Guy Rothwell had actually read the article rather than just the title and the bit about prices (money, money, money) some of his doubts might have been answered.</div><div><br /></div><div>Apples also have a low unit cost, yet commercial orchards thrive.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br /> And when we look at the gentleman's website and see the prices he's asking for <a href="http://www.antiquitiesonline.co.uk/Africa_B224LCC.aspx">his North African artefacts</a>, we might understand his disquiet that I give teh range of priices most other dealers offer artefacts of certain types for... I'd also draw attention to a certain quartzite Middle Palaeolithic cordi[form] handaxe he has there for the upper price range I identified in my ("nonsense") paper... the dealer says it has "some smoothing due to exposure to the desert winds", I suggest he looks again. The one from Nigeria... Look also at which ones have cited provenances and try and group those that do not. Do you see a pattern here? Look at the ones with dark patinas, why have so few of them got a collecting history at all, when these in particular should?&nbsp; &nbsp;<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /></div>Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com0½ðɳapp¿Í»§¶ËÏÂÔØ